Being Filled With the Holy Spirit (Holy Spirit-part 3)

In 1855, a young man was born again and gave his life in service to the Lord. He was fervent and zealous in his work, starting children’s ministries and preaching to thousands. He started a church and traveled to other countries sharing the gospel. Many were saved because of his efforts. He poured himself into his ministry so much that he was beginning to feel burned out from all the personal effort and striving he put in.

One evening, at the close of one of his messages, two women approached him and told him that they were praying for him. This occurred several of the evenings that followed, and finally he became a little perturbed about it. “Why do you pray for me? Why don’t you pray for these unsaved?” he asked.

They told him that they were praying for him to receive power. He didn’t know what they meant, but those words kept bothering him, so finally he went back to them and asked what they were talking about. They told him that he needed the “baptism of the Holy Spirit”. After they explained what they were talking about, he said he wanted to pray with them rather than they just praying for him. He prayed fervently for this baptism and power. He continued to pray for it on his own.

Not long after that, he was walking the streets of New York and his prayer was answered. In the midst of all the hurried flurry of the city street, he felt the power of God coming upon him. He rushed to a friend’s house nearby and asked to have a room to himself. He stayed in that room for hours and the Holy Spirit came upon him, “filling his soul with such joy that at last he had to ask God to withhold His hand, lest he die on the spot from very joy. He went out from that place with the power of the Holy Ghost upon him”.1

Dwight L. Moody then went on to be a more effective evangelist who no longer struggled on his own strength. He preached to crowds of tens of thousands and led many more to Christ but without the striving of his earlier days. In his own words, “The sermons were no different, and I did not present any new truths and yet hundreds were converted. I would not be placed back where I was before that blessed experience.” 2

dl-moodyMost of us know who Dwight L. Moody is, but this is a story many of us don’t ever hear about. Moody was known to preach about “a baptism of the Holy Spirit” regularly after that experience. He was known for saying, “The Holy Spirit in us is one thing, and the Holy Spirit on us for service is another.”3

He taught that all believers had the Holy Spirit within them, but that it was entirely another thing to have the Holy Spirit fall upon you “with power from on high”. He urged his listeners to seek a filling of the Holy Spirit saying, “We all need it [the filling of the Holy Spirit] together, and let us not rest day nor night until we possess it; if that is the uppermost thought in our hearts, God will give it to us if we just hunger and thirst for it and say, ‘God helping me, I will not rest until endued with power from on high.’”4

Sometimes teachers would come to argue with Moody about it. R.A. Torrey writes about one of those times when he and Moody had one of these encounters in Torrey’s book, Why God Used D.L. Moody.

“…fine men, all of them, but they did not believe in a definite baptism with the Holy Ghost for the individual. They believed that every child of God was baptized with the Holy Ghost, and they did not believe in any special baptism with the Holy Ghost for the individual. Mr. Moody came to me and said: “Torrey, will you come up to my house after the meeting tonight and I will get those men to come, and I want you to talk this thing out with them.”

Of course, I very readily consented, and Mr. Moody and I talked for a long time, but they did not altogether see eye to eye with us. And when they went, Mr. Moody signaled me to remain for a few moments. Mr. Moody sat there with his chin on his breast, as he so often sat when he was in deep thought; then he looked up and said: ‘Oh, why will they split hairs? Why don’t they see that this is just the one thing that they themselves need? They are good teachers, they are wonderful teachers, and I am so glad to have them here; but why will they not see that the baptism with the Holy Ghost is just the one touch that they themselves need?’”

The Still Quiet Influence of the Holy Spirit?

The above story is, admittedly, outside of our Anabaptist comfort zones. It goes against our beliefs. We may not really know much about the Holy Spirit, but we’ve been told that we don’t believe in a separate baptism or filling of the Holy Spirit that might take place after conversion.

So what do we believe? Or more importantly, what does the Bible tell us about the “baptism” or “filling” of the Holy Spirit? Are our beliefs lined up with Scripture?

In Acts 1 and 2, we read of 120 people gathered waiting and praying for the promise of the Holy Spirit baptism.

“..for John baptized with water, but you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit..” Acts 1:5

“..But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you..” Acts 1:8

“And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance.” Acts 2:4

These three verses are all speaking of the same happening, and yet it is described in different ways. “You will be baptized with the Holy Spirit…will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you…they were all filled with the Holy Spirit”.

So we can conclude that when we read these phrases in relation to the Holy Spirit throughout Acts that they are talking about the same thing.

When Peter preached in Acts 2, the multitude was “cut to the heart” and asked what they should do. Peter said to repent, be baptized and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

In chapter 4, after Peter and John had been arrested, questioned, and released by the religious leaders, they went back to the believers and reported what had happened. They responded by praying and in verse 31 it says, “And when they had prayed, the place in which they were gathered together was shaken, and they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and continued to speak the word of God with boldness.”

Wait. They had already been baptized with the Holy Spirit and yet here they are getting filled again. And this was not just an awareness of a quiet influence. The Holy Spirit came again in such an evident way that the place they were gathered in was shaken.

In Acts 8, Philip is preaching to Samaria. Both men and women believed and were baptized. When the apostles heard of this, they sent Peter and John to pray for them that they would receive the Holy Spirit because the Holy Spirit had not yet fallen on any of them. (Verses 14-16)

This story seems a little different. They believed and were baptized, so why did the Holy Spirit not automatically fall on them? Philip had apparently received empowerment of the Holy Spirit because signs and great miracles were performed while he was evangelizing. And yet the Samaritans did not receive the Holy Spirit when they believed the message he brought.

When an account in the Bible seems a little different than the rest, there is often something that we are supposed to gather from it. What stands out to me is that the Holy Spirit did not just automatically come when they believed and were baptized. And since the apostles did not always lay hands and pray for people to receive the Holy Spirit, we can’t draw the conclusion that they always had to do this. So the conclusion I draw is that the Holy Spirit does not show up in the exact same way every time. Every situation is different.

He is God. He does not do things according to man-made standards and expectations.

Another thing that stands out to me is that there was something very definite and evident about the receiving of the Holy Spirit. They knew whether they had received the Holy Spirit or not. In Acts 19, Paul asks in Ephesus, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?” He expects them to be able to tell if they had or not.

Another story of the Holy Spirit coming in an unusual way is found in Acts 10. Peter was preaching to the Gentiles and while he was still preaching, the Holy Spirit fell on the crowd and they began speaking in tongues and extolling God. They hadn’t even been baptized yet, nor did anyone pray over them! Even the believers who were with Peter were amazed.

I don’t know. Being filled with the Holy Spirit throughout Acts just doesn’t seem to synchronize with our “Quiet Influence Only” beliefs within our Anabaptist circles. There is no doubt that sometimes He is a still, quiet influence, but that is not how it was when we read about people receiving a filling of the Holy Spirit.

“But that was only for the early church. It’s not for today.”

Acts 2:38-39, “And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself. (emphasis mine)

Why should it look any different today than it did then? Is the Holy Spirit any less powerful today than He was when the early church began? Can we really claim that we need Him less today so that is why we don’t see Him move in our lives?

Why did Jesus send the Holy Spirit at Pentecost?

The Holy Spirit falling on the believers was not for regeneration nor to bring them forgiveness of sins. When Jesus told the apostles to wait in Jerusalem for the promise, He was speaking to the men that He had previously told were “clean”. “‘…And you are clean, but not every one of you.’ For He knew who was to betray Him” (John 13:10-11).

Again in John 15:3, we hear Him repeating those words, “Already you are clean because of the word that I have spoken to you.”

The same could be said of the previous example I gave in the account about Samaria in Acts 8. They believed and were baptized, then received the Holy Spirit later. They were regenerate believers though they had not yet received the Holy Spirit.

So we can conclude that the filling of the Holy Spirit is not to regenerate sinners. These baptized believers and regenerate people had not yet had the Holy Spirit fall on them, but yet each believer was given opportunity to then have this filling of the Holy Spirit.

Being filled with the Spirit is not a one time “once and for all” thing. Galatians 5:16 says “Walk in the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh.” In Acts we read of both Peter and Paul being filled with the Holy Spirit more than once (Acts 4:8, 31, 13:9, 13:52). Paul tells the Ephesians to “be filled with the Spirit” (Eph. 5:18), though the Holy Spirit had already fallen on the believers there. (Acts 19). It is apparent that it is not a one time thing.

So why then do we need the filling of the Holy Spirit? In Jesus’ words, “you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you”. (Acts 1:8) Over and over, passages that speak of a filling of the Holy Spirit are connected with and for the purpose of empowerment in testimony and service. (Acts 2:4-8, Acts 4:7-8, 31, 33, Eph. 3:16, )

This filling is not for cleansing us from sin, nor is for making us perfect Christians who will never sin again. It is an empowering for doing whatever God is calling us to do. And it does not always look the same in everyone because God does not call us to the same work. 1 Cor. 12:4-7 “Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit…and there are varieties of activities, but it is the same God who empowers them all in everyone. To each is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good.”

But don’t all believers have the Holy Spirit?

All believers have the Holy Spirit in them when they become believers. But that is still different than the empowerment that happened at Pentecost. Did Jesus’ disciples have the Holy Spirit in them before Pentecost? In John 20:22, Jesus breathes on them and says, “Receive the Holy Spirit”. Did they not receive what He was giving them? And yet they still had to wait in Jerusalem for the power of the Holy Spirit.

Many people are skeptical of any teaching about being filled with the Holy Spirit because they assume it is just part of the Pentecostal movement. But teaching about this was around long before the Pentecostal movement began, and it continues even with others who are not part of the charismatic movement. It’s not something Satan likes people to find out about. After all, why would he want us to be filled by the very Spirit that empowers us to a greater ministry?

I challenge you to research some history of some of the greatest preachers and evangelists. Read about their experiences of being filled with the Holy Spirit, and the accounts of the Spirit falling on crowds while they preached. A.J. Gordon, Reuben A. Torrey, Dwight Moody, Charles Finney, Billy Graham, Lloyd Jones, Jonathon Edwards, etc.

For those who have never experienced any sort of manifestation of the Holy Spirit, and have only known Him as a barely noticed, quiet influence; it is easy to dismiss it all as nonsense. But when you have an experience, there is such a joy (Acts 13:52), refreshing (Acts 3:19), and comfort (Acts 9:31) that you know without a shadow of a doubt that something is different now.

I would not have written any of this ten years ago, and if I would have read anything like this, I would have dismissed it as nonsense because I had never experienced it. I would have ardently claimed that the Holy Spirit is a barely noticeable, quiet influence because I had never experienced anything else. But when you experience a physical manifestation of the Holy Spirit, you can’t deny that there is something more that you were missing before– even though you may have been trying to serve Him to the best of your knowledge.

Jonathon Edwards says it like this, “Have they not condemned such vehement affections, such high transports of love and joy, such pity and distress for the souls of others, and exercises of mind that have such great effects, merely, or chiefly, because they knew nothing about them by experience? Persons are very ready to be suspicious of what they have not felt themselves. It is to be feared that many good men have been guilty of this error, which however does not make it the less unreasonable.” 5

From my personal experience and in hearing the testimony of others, having the Holy Spirit come upon you is an experience of indescribable joy. Rather than crossing our arms in suspicion and judgment, perhaps we should instead ask God to show us if we are lacking something.



3. Dwight L. Moody, Secret Power, chapter 2

4. Ibid

5. Works of Jonathon Edwards, Volume One, Sect. II

Quotes regarding the filling of the Holy Spirit:

“While the power that the baptism brings manifests itself in different ways in different believers, there will always be power.” -Charles Finney

“The grace that appeared so calm and sweet appeared also great above the heavens, the person of Christ appeared ineffably excellent and an excellency great enough to swallow up all thoughts and conceptions, which continued, as near as I can judge, about an hour, which kept me a greater part of the time in a flood of tears and weeping aloud. I felt an ardency of soul to be what I know not otherwise how to express, emptied and annihilated, to lie in the dust and to be full of Christ alone, to love Him with a holy and a pure love, to trust in Him, to live upon Him, to serve Him, and to be perfectly sanctified and made pure with a divine and heavenly purity.” -Jonathon Edwards

“If the apostles were incapable of being true witnesses without unusual power, who are we to claim that we can be witnesses without such power?” Martin Lloyd-Jones

“As I turned and was about to take a seat by the fire, I received a mighty baptism of the Holy Ghost. Without any expectation of it … the Holy Spirit descended upon me in a manner that seemed to go through me, body and soul. No words can express the wonderful love that was shed abroad in my heart. I wept aloud with joy … ” -Charles Finney

For those interested in further reading:

1. Enduement for Service -chapter 8         By D.L. Moody

2.  Personal Memoirs of Revival- chapters 2,3       By Charles Finney

3.  Power From on High- chapters 1-3        By Charles Finney

4.  How to Receive the Holy Spirit        By John Piper

5.  You Will be Baptized With the Holy Spirit       By John Piper

6.  Tongues of Fire and the Fullness of God      By John Piper

7.  Need for Revival and Baptism with the Holy Spirit         By John Piper


24 thoughts on “Being Filled With the Holy Spirit (Holy Spirit-part 3)

  1. Thanks so much for writing this! For me I have truly experienced the Spirit filling me both in dramatic ways and quiet ways. I think of the time I got saved, when I had an outpouring of the Holy Spirit that dramatically changed my life. I was suicidal and sick of a life of so much sin, pain, and abuse. I asked God to show me what he really thought of me, and the floodgates of heaven opened and God poured out his love on me, through the Holy Spirit. I will never forget being filled with the Holy Spirit and wanting to dance and sing and laugh. (I did the sing and laugh part. Not the dance because I was still a little bit Menno. 😀 ) For me, that outpouring of the Spirit, then brought me to confess my sin and fall before my Lord, who I had hated, and ask to be his daughter. Those next weeks were incredible. And as I grew in the Lord, he would powerfully move in me and through me in ways I had never dreamed possible. It was 100% different than when I was baptized with water in the Menno church, and sat through the whole service wondering if I had the Holy Spirit. I KNEW this time, and when I was baptized again after actually getting saved, I KNEW once again that I had the Holy Spirit.

    But it’s not always in a loud crazy powerful way. There have been times I’ve been so desperate before God, and so desperately needing a filling of the Holy Spirit. And I’ve cried out to him in agony and anguish, and wrestled and begged. And then I am filled with a quiet knowing. And God speaks and works and ministers and equips me through that quiet filling of the Holy Spirit. God doesn’t come in a prescribed box. He can work through the quiet or the loud. At least, he has in my case.

    I think a big reason Anabaptists play down the Holy Spirit is because they are scared. They are scared because it is beyond their control and it doesn’t fit into a nice little doctrinal book. But man! Imagine what a revival would sweep our country if we would come before God and lay down our preconceived ideas and fears, and really truly allow him to pour out his Spirit!

    Thanks for the post. Hope this wasn’t too much of a ramble.

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    • Hi Victoria,

      Thanks for sharing! We need to hear more testimonies like this because it awakes a hunger in people. God longs to show us His love and it is through the filling of the Holy Spirit that we experience a taste of His love. And it does often bring indescribable joy.

      I think you are correct in your surmising of why we Anabaptists are often afraid of teaching about this. We have a fear of what things might lead to and we fear what we can’t control. I am not immune to this. It’s not always easy to follow the leading of the Holy Spirit when He asks me to do things that are out of my comfort zone.

      “Imagine what a revival would sweep our country if we would come before God and lay down our preconceived ideas and fears, and really truly allow him to pour out his Spirit!”

      That’s my prayer. Especially for my people.


  2. Thank you! Thank you so much for this balanced, Scriptural post.
    I appreciated your emphasis that there’s something more than so many Christians experience. On the other hand, you do not dechristianize those who have not experienced a clear manifestation of the Spirit of God.

    We need more teaching like this.

    I understand the fears and concern. I’ve seen the work of the Holy Ghost hijacked and turned into human emotionalism. But I’ve seen the real thing! I’ve felt the glory of the Lord fill a room. I’ve felt the power of that Presence fill me so that I couldn’t help but dance for the sheer joy of it.

    It’s real.

    If you haven’t experienced it, it doesn’t mean you don’t love God or aren’t a Christian. But it does mean that God has more for you.


    • Hi David,

      Thanks for commenting. Thank you also for sharing some of your testimony!

      I have also seen and heard wrong teaching regarding the Holy Spirit. It’s sad because it makes Christians wary of any Holy Spirit teaching. Satan likes nothing better than to see God’s people reject His greatest gift because of that.

      But there is nothing like feeling the Presence of God come upon you or to experience corporate worship when the Holy Spirit is there and the Glory of the Lord fills the room. When you taste and see the goodness of God, you can’t hardly wait for more. Joy unspeakable!


    • Hello Steve,

      It may possibly play into the roots of some of the fear, but many, if not most, Anabaptists are unaware of the Munster Rebellion. Menno Simons had reason to distance himself from that, but I doubt most ministers today who squelch teaching about being filled with the Holy Spirit are worried about identifying with that. But I could see it being a fear that is possibly being passed habitually through generations without really understanding why.

      However, I think a lot of our fear is simply because of wrong teachings in the past century about Holy Spirit baptism. It has affected more than just Anabaptists. But when our people are so afraid of showing emotions in church that they can’t even raise their hands, or clap in joy, it makes me think we have a stronger fear than most other denominations. We fear anything we can’t control and make rules for.


  3. I very much appreciate your posts about the Spirit. Had they come from another source I honestly wouldn’t have read them. Instead, because of your conservative mennonite perspective and the scriptural basis of all your posts, I’ve been able to trust, and learn, and let go of my past. Thanks so much for writing!

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  4. I generally appreciated your thoughts and found most of them scriptural, but the “baptism of the Holy Spirit” happened just once on the day of Pentecost to form believers into one body, the body of Christ. Subsequent manifestations of the Spirit in filling and empowering believers for testimony and service, as you put it well, are never called a “baptism”. I believe Acts 1:5 (“ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence”) and I Corinthians 12:13 (“by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body”) should make the meaning and purpose and incidence (once) of the baptism of the Spirit clear. It is a corporate action of the Spirit, not an individual.

    But to be “filled with the Spirit” and to “walk in the Spirit” are certainly the privileges of every believer individually. Thank you for your thoughts. Here are some additional thoughts on the Spirit of God that I have enjoyed:


    • Hi John,

      Thanks for weighing in. I appreciate your feedback. I generally tend to avoid the term “baptism of the Holy Spirit” because of the connotation it carries. But that is the term many of the older writers and preachers used when speaking of being filled with the Holy Spirit. And in studying Acts, I don’t think it’s necessarily a wrong terminology.

      Regarding Pentecost, Acts 2:4 says (speaking of them receiving the baptism of the Holy Spirit)“And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit…”

      So either Acts 2:4 is speaking of two separate things happening at Pentecost, baptism of the Holy Spirit and a separate filling of the Holy Spirit, or it means the same thing. I would understand it to be different terminology for the same thing.

      Later in Acts 4:31, it uses the same terminology, “They were all filled with the Holy Spirit” in reference to the same people. Acts 9:17 uses the same terms to describe Saul’s conversion and says he was told by Ananias that he would “regain [his] sight and be filled with the Holy Spirit”. Though it doesn’t use the term “baptism of the Holy Spirit”, I believe that’s what Saul received.

      When Peter is recounting about how the Holy Spirit fell on the Gentiles (Acts 11), he says the “Holy Spirit fell on them just as on us at the beginning.” He says then he remembered Jesus’s words, “…you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit”.

      He lets us know it was a baptism of the Holy Spirit even though it is referred to in several different ways. In Acts 10, where this incident occurs, it says, “…The Holy Spirit fell on all who heard…”(44) Then it says Peter was amazed “because the gift of the Holy Spirit was poured out even on the Gentiles..” In verse 47, Peter asks, “Can anyone withhold water for baptizing these people, who have received the Holy Spirit just as we have?”

      It would appear to me, however, that the terms “baptism” and “receiving the Holy Spirit” are only used to refer to the initial first time the Holy Spirit fills an individual. The terms “filled with the Holy Spirit” (Acts 4:31, 13:52, Eph. 5:18) and “the Holy Spirit fell” or “came upon” can be used to refer to the first filling or subsequent fillings.


      • Simon, not wanting to indefinitely continue a discussion in which we may not soon agree on, I will only say that a baptism and a filling of the Spirit should not be considered synonymous just because they occurred once simultaneously, on the day of Pentecost. Baptism of the Spirit is a corporate action. “Filling” is of individuals, no matter how many of them may have been together, or alone, as Saul was. When Peter thought of the Lord’s words about the baptism of the Spirit in Acts 11, he merely realized that the miracle of the Spirit falling upon Gentiles had the character of that baptism which just once formed the body of Christ, of which these Gentiles were now shown to be a part.

        The reason this matters is that considering Spirit baptism an individual matter detracts from the wonderful truth of the church, the body of Christ, and its function and unity. I Corinthians 12:13 is crystal clear on this, and that verse would have no meaning whatever if the “baptism” would equal a “filling” subsequent to salvation. Each believer is, immediately upon being saved, added to that which was formed by baptism on the day of Pentecost. He does not have to wait until some day when he finally prays through and experiences the power of that filling. There are many other old writers that would respectfully disagree with Finney, Moody, and Piper. So may the Lord guide us all in searching out the truth from His Holy Word.


      • Greater Riches, you commented, “Spirit baptism as an individual matter detracts from the wonderful truth of the church, the body of Christ, and its function and unity.”

        By what is the church unified? I think the Holy Spirit in individuals is what forges the bond of unity in the church. We don’t receive the Spirit by being part of a church. We are part of the church because we have received the Spirit.


      • Rosina, it is very true that we are part of the church because we have received the Spirit, and not the other way around. However, this does not negate the fact that the Spirit has an intimate part to play in both individual salvation and corporate formation, and we should distinguish between the two in order to make sure neither aspect of the truth of the Spirit’s working becomes muddled to the point where it goes unappreciated by His saints.


      • Thanks for your respectful dialogue, John.

        So if I’m understanding you correctly, you feel that the term “baptism of the Spirit” refers only to the very first time the Holy Spirit fell at Pentecost. Then when any new believers were added throughout Acts, and the Holy Spirit fell on them, or filled them; it was not a baptism. Would this also mean that when it says new believers “received the Holy Spirit”, it was not a baptism, only a filling?

        With this view, it would mean that every new believer in Acts automatically received the “baptism of the Holy Spirit”, but then subsequently and sometimes simultaneously (but not always) “received the Holy Spirit” or were “filled with the Holy Spirit”.

        What about the Samaritans in Acts 8 who became believers and were baptized with water, but had not yet received the Holy Spirit? Did they have this baptism of Holy Spirit automatically even though the Holy Spirit “had not yet fallen” on them? Did that mean they were they baptized, but still needed a “filling”? And if so, why was this “filling” so important? Why did the disciples consistently look for this “filling” in new believers?

        In Acts 19, Paul asks the disciples in Ephesus if they had received the Holy Spirit since they believed. Why was this important? Regardless of whether or not you believe you have an automatic “baptism of the Holy Spirit” as soon as you become a believer, it is apparent that “receiving the Holy Spirit”, or having the Holy Spirit “fall on” you or “fill” you was not always automatic. Nor did it always look the same for every believer. And yet it was an viewed by the apostles as an experience that was expected to happen in the life of a new believer at some point.

        Regardless of what terminology is used, I believe every new believer receives the Holy Spirit when they convert. But I’m not sure every believer has had the Holy Spirit “fall on” or “fill” them. Whether you call that “baptism of the Holy Spirit” or “receiving the Holy Spirit” or being “filled with the Holy Spirit”– it doesn’t detract from the fact that something happens. And it is apparent that the disciples experienced this “filling” and expected new believers to receive it as well.

        In Luke 11:13, Jesus tells His disciples, (speaking of good gifts) “…how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask Him?” That is all we need to do. Ask. And if Jesus says it’s okay to ask Him, then why not ask? It’s not about waiting for a long time and “finally praying through”.

        Some of the old writers 🙂 believe the baptism mentioned in 1Cor. 12:13 is speaking of water baptism. I have not studied that much myself yet, but would like to look into that a bit more.

        I like the terminology that is used in this by Moody, Torrey, Finney, etc., best, and though we may not be in agreement in this, I appreciate your push back in making me think harder.

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  6. I was so blessed reading this. Almost 20 years ago I was wrote off and forced to leave a Mennonite church because I came to believe this and it forever changed my life! I still look like a mennonite. Many young people are so hungry for reality. We are on the verge of a great awakening.


    • Hello Marcus,
      Thanks for reading and commenting. I think many young people are wanting something more than what we have been offering. We are needing a fresh outpouring of the Holy Spirit on us. May He fill us and revive us!


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  8. My experience was that (unlike me) most all of the young people that were raised old order Mennonite in my time were baptized/joined the church of their parents at the beginning of their adults lives and now that I have lived among them for the past 35 years I have found that about 95% of them according to “the fruits” have been relatively faithful and dependable Christians, although I would have to say that very few of them give a very emotional witness to The Holy Ghost. It is however obvious by “the fruits” and under test that the “Still Quiet Influence of the Holy Spirit” is with them. It seems to be more difficult for those that grew up surrounded by good Christians like this to express themselves spiritually however.

    The Bible has over a dozen references to the importance of never hardening our hearts towards God and this seems to be to be the critical factor as to IF,and how much of The Holy Spirit we will experience and potentially share with others. It is critical because by free will, we all chose which of the 2 Spirits we have in our brain AND our hearts.

    In my case I confess that I personally chose to NOT be baptized/join my parents church when I was “of age” I remember God calling me as a teenager ( a still small voice in my subconscious) but I was just not convinced and not convicted and the more I hardened my heart, the less God was calling me. This was a conscious decision on my part (all my fault) and after continuing hardening my heart over and over again it got to a point where for a period of 10 years I lived a hard working and so called “good life” but during this 10 year period I cannot recall (even 1 time) that God was calling me anymore at all. Truth is evil spirit had actually convinced me that I was free and happy and successful.

    I confess I had what Mennonites call an “emotional conversion” (I was all by myself in the middle of nowhere and it was completely unpreached and unexpected) some 20 years ago when I abruptly stopped what I was doing and earnestly began praying to God and asking for forgiveness for all my sins and I definitively remember accepting Jesus as my personal Savior in prayer. I distinctly remember absolutely begging and pleading with God the Father to accept me and my prayer in the NAME of JESUS AND THROUGH His Son JESUS who I knew died for me. There was definitely NO negotiating involved. What is most mind-boggling to me still to this very day, is how almost EVERYTHING changed in an instant after my prayer was complete. I remember this dramatic miraculous change in LIFE so much more than the changes in my life after I was baptized in a modern Mennonite Church.

    I “engage and get involved” all the time since I became a Christian because unlike my quiet, peaceful meek old order family and friends and neighbors, I react passionately and emotionally and bluntly to both The Holy Spirit and evil spirit because they cannot (will not) be reconciled in this world. Most all of my most passionate feelings since conversion revolve around the Spiritual war that is raging. I confess it would seem “easier” if I would have been converted the “old order” way instead of the way that I did.

    After this life changing prayer I remember I felt a split second of complete calmness (almost like I envision a sudden death to be) AND then after what seemed like about one second in time, I just carried on with what I was doing not having any idea what had actually happened. I was shocked to discover that from that moment forward, no matter where I went or what I did or what I thought about… Life had changed completely and permanently and to this very day I am convinced that the ONLY way I would ever go back to the way I WAS BEFORE, is IF by freewill I hardened my heart, just like the Scripture warns. If I did that, I believe that The Holy Spirit would forsake me and I would deserve what I would get. Every since that prayer there is something EXTREMELY powerful in my being (my mind and heart) and IT is NOT from me or my genetics…Truth is there are only 2 spirits in the whole universe and the difference between the Holy Spirit and evil Spirit is like LIFE compared to DEATH!

    May God Bless US and Protect Us from evil!
    Delmer B. Martin


  9. Thank you so much for your article. It has been a blessing to me and my family.

    The hard part is finding like-minded people with whom to worship, something I have found difficult in many congregations (I have never been part of a Menno church).

    Blessings to you, and thank you again for making yourself vulnerable enough to share your truth and love.


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